Once you get beyond three children, it becomes impossible to program their lives. That’s why large families tend toward natural R selection and why the most K selected types are the ones with only one or two children. It’s a serpent devouring its own tail. The fact we even have a conference like this is an indicator that we were being judged by God and found wanting.
Once you get beyond three children, it becomes impossible to program their lives. That’s why large families tend toward natural R selection and why the most K selected types are the ones with only one or two children. It’s a serpent devouring its own tail. The fact we even have a conference like this is an indicator that we were being judged by God and found wanting.
The segments of the American population which consistently have the most children are those with high IQs, diligence, conscientiousness: the Haredim and Amish. Not R-selected at all.
It's very difficult to pass one's values on to one's children if you live in a community which lives by opposite values and hand your children over to that community's institutions for education; you are saying and doing contradictory things.
A lot of people don't realize that the Amish are pretty successful economically. Many work as skilled tradesmen at good wages (the farms don't make much money anymore on their own unless they are also running a retail business, and they often allow normies to drive them to factories to work). They don't have to pay SS or Medicare taxes (that's 15.3% of income right there). Healthcare cost is low (they do allow people to use necessary modern healthcare). Their expenses are low and they have no debt.
In short Amish have adopted enough modern technology to "afford" a SAHM they marry young, and a young SAHM is a fertility gold mine.
When Keeperman says R selected, I think he means allowing for a certain openness of experience in your children's lives instead of being programmatic. The Amish certainly hold their children to high standards and make demands of them,, including teaching of various skills, but lots of their kids time involves open ended play or boredom and the opportunity to choose that life for themselves (Rumspringa). Far more freedom than the average Private School to Prep School to Ivy League to Law school pipeline of the average upper middle class WEIRD family.
The is is a weird way to redefine R vs K. I always understood it to mean low vs high parental investment. Compare Rumspringa to the normie ritual of sending your kids off to college to reenact movies about college debauchery.
Once you get beyond three children, it becomes impossible to program their lives. That’s why large families tend toward natural R selection and why the most K selected types are the ones with only one or two children. It’s a serpent devouring its own tail. The fact we even have a conference like this is an indicator that we were being judged by God and found wanting.
Yes. I believe it is a kind of judgement beyond our understanding.
The segments of the American population which consistently have the most children are those with high IQs, diligence, conscientiousness: the Haredim and Amish. Not R-selected at all.
It's very difficult to pass one's values on to one's children if you live in a community which lives by opposite values and hand your children over to that community's institutions for education; you are saying and doing contradictory things.
A lot of people don't realize that the Amish are pretty successful economically. Many work as skilled tradesmen at good wages (the farms don't make much money anymore on their own unless they are also running a retail business, and they often allow normies to drive them to factories to work). They don't have to pay SS or Medicare taxes (that's 15.3% of income right there). Healthcare cost is low (they do allow people to use necessary modern healthcare). Their expenses are low and they have no debt.
In short Amish have adopted enough modern technology to "afford" a SAHM they marry young, and a young SAHM is a fertility gold mine.
When Keeperman says R selected, I think he means allowing for a certain openness of experience in your children's lives instead of being programmatic. The Amish certainly hold their children to high standards and make demands of them,, including teaching of various skills, but lots of their kids time involves open ended play or boredom and the opportunity to choose that life for themselves (Rumspringa). Far more freedom than the average Private School to Prep School to Ivy League to Law school pipeline of the average upper middle class WEIRD family.
The is is a weird way to redefine R vs K. I always understood it to mean low vs high parental investment. Compare Rumspringa to the normie ritual of sending your kids off to college to reenact movies about college debauchery.